Podcast episode 38: Marina Abramovic and Michael Jackson

We speak to the queen of performance art about casting herself in stone and to the National Portrait Gallery’s director Nicholas Cullinan about the king of pop’s influence on artists.

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Marina Abramović, Five Stages of Maya Dance, 2018, presented by Factum Arte and Lisson Gallery at Masterpiece Presents Oak Taylor Smith for Factum Arte

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